Cold and hot liver, western style.

From: Henriette Kress hetta.spamcop.net
To: herb.lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [Herb] liver herbs
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:19:30 +0200

Michelle Morton-niyama wrote:

>> I'd go for liver herbs, every time.

> so, henriette- what is your favorite liver protocol?

It depends on the person.

"Hot" liver, _or_ inflamed liver (hep a,b,c,d,e... - looks like cold liver but is in fact hot) - dandelion, burdock, etc.

"Cold" liver - rumex, berberis, etc.

And I always always do the intake form.

From: "Robert Linde" SmallShipCruises.worldnet.att.net

Henriette,

I am a TCM herbalist and have been meaning to ask about the idea of cold liver. In Chinese Medicine we have a hot liver and a stagnant liver, but no cold liver. What symptoms to you look for in a cold liver?

In TCM a stagnant liver person may have hypocondric pain, irritability, alternating constipation/diarrhea, painful menstruation with small clots, fatigue, sighing, belching and a few others that I can't think of right now. With a hot liver we have much of the same stuff plus red face/eyes, anger, loud voice, aversion to heat, thirst...

bob

From: Henriette Kress hetta.spamcop.net

>What symptoms to you look for in a cold liver?

Caricatures:

Cold liver: Problems with fat or protein digestion; allergies; gut troubles; liver geared towards fuel, ie. under stress such a person bounces off walls and ceiling; and this is the type that says "and I've never dieted in my life!". Which is unfair to the "hot" liver folks, really. They live a troubled life, gutwise, and die old and skinny. They can't NOT eat simple carbs (potatoes, rice, bread, sugar, fruit) - unless you give them liver herbs, to heat the liver up.

Low or normal blood pressure, depending on the kidneys.

Hot liver: loves fats and proteins, never has allergies or gut troubles (but might get a short-lived itchy rash from eating way too much of much too rich foods); liver geared towards building more, ie. under stress such a person _grows_. Tends to live life to the full, and tends to die young(ish).

Generally high blood pressure. They can't NOT eat fat - unless you give them liver herbs to cool the liver down.

There's a third stress response, hypo/hyperthyroid; it's not as clearcut as the liver responses.

You could do worse than go read Michael Moore's Western herbal energetics booklet off his site: swsbm.com - go for his manuals.

Also see: Blog: Hot vs. cold liver.

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Related entries: Michael Moore's Constitutional Intake form
Also see: Blog: Liver energetics in alcoholics - Blog: Hot vs. cold liver.